The Lie "Man Up" Told Every Man | Ep. 025 | unANSWERED100

"Man up" was supposed to make men stronger. So why did it leave so many of them broken?

In this episode Joe shares stories he's never told on camera — a stepfather who broke his promise the same day he made it, a man who risked kidnapping charges to protect a child, and what the military taught him about pushing through pain. Joyce brings the Cantonese lens — what her grandfathers modeled, what sacrifice actually looks like, and why phrases like "man up" might be doing more harm than the people who say them realize.

Together they ask the question nobody wants to sit with: if "man up" was the instruction, why are so many men quietly falling apart?

No easy answers. Just the conversation you wish someone had started sooner.

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📌Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 Watch the Animation
02:14 What does it mean to "Man Up"?
04:30 How this phrase helped Joe survive his abusive childhood
08:05 A brave man stood up to Joe's abusive stepdad
14:41 Has society made manhood confusing?
25:29 How the military taught Joe what it means to be a man
26:59 What were the men like in Joyce's world growing up?
30:19 If Joe had a son, how would he raise him to be a strong man?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

I had run away from home and I hid with another family. My stepfather came because they called him and that man told my stepfather his face, he's like, I will not release this child to you unless you swear to me that you will never touch him again. And I was so thankful for that man. As soon as my stepfather got home, he broke his promise and he beat me. Hello and welcome to another episode of Answer, a podcast where we love to think, question, and connect. My name is Joe.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

And I'm Joyce. So we have a really good one for you today. What is the phrase that we're talking about today? Man up! I didn't know Donkey Kong was a guest guest appearance. Let's do the animation.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Let's do the animation. So we'll first watch this and then we'll come back and we'll talk about it. We'll dive in, alright? I mean, first go watch this and then come back. And we'll dive in. Yeah. See you in a minute.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Man up, an English saying. For most of recorded history, strength in men meant one thing: endurance. Man up. This saying just sort of appeared. Somewhere between the battlefield and the blacksmith's forge, the measure of men was how much he could carry and how little of it it showed. The Industrial Revolution sharpened that into something harder. Men became machines, unfeeling by design, because feeling slowed you down, and slowing down meant your family didn't eat. So man wasn't cruelty, it was survival code, passed from father to son, generation after generation. It worked for a while, but somewhere along the way, the code outlived the emergency it was written for. And the men who never broke, never bent, never asked for help became the ones nobody could reach. So here's the question nobody asks. So why did it produce so many broken ones? What does it mean to you? To man up.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

What does it mean to me, man up? Let me first start with that, go back, okay? Let's rewind. Because I think it has two different actual definitions. Yes, that's the picture that comes to mind many times. But I think there's two different actual definitions. There's one where it's like, suck it up, buttercup.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

You understand? And uh that's the one that can be toxic, but we'll come back to that one in a second, okay? Okay. The other one is, and I think it's uh from a positive standpoint, is like uh it's time for you to own and take responsibility and do what you know you have to do. So it's not that suck it up, buttercup, hey, this is this is life, but it's more like hey, I have to push myself to that next level to to the standard that I know I need to reach.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

So it's more encouraging than the I would say encouraging, but I would say even more so challenging.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Yeah, exactly. So it's a challenge, okay. It's a challenge.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Okay, okay, let's go back even further. What was the first time that you that someone said this phrase to you? And in what tone? And what was what do you think they were meaning?

SPEAKER_00 3:31

I can't remember the first time someone said men up to me. I've heard it so many times in my life, I don't even think that I can go back and pick the first time.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

You understand I mean.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

So it's you've heard it many times said to you, or I've heard it just many times said around me, said to me.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

I've said it. I mean, all the above. Okay. It's just something that um it even if it's not said verbally, it's something that is felt implied. It's something that is implied. Yeah. It's something that even if it's not those actual, I mean, I've heard many times, suck it up, you know.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

That yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

And to me, that's kind of the same thing, right? As men up. So Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Think back to all those times that you've heard the phrase, you use the phrase. What was the intention? Like, what was the purpose?

SPEAKER_00 4:18

I I can tell you that there were a number of times when it was used where it was negative, it's like where something's happening. Um, okay, let me let me go there. Even when I was a kid, it wasn't just that other people said it to me. I said it to myself. Um, because there were times, you once again, you know my history, when I was walking through the abuse and I was in pain where I physically was beaten, physically so bad, where I had to crawl to get into bed, you know? And just in my mind, I'm thinking, Joe, take it. Man up, you can do this. Whatever doesn't kill me will only make me stronger. Whatever doesn't kill me will only make me stronger. And there's part of that that was pot that was positive because they helped me to survive. But there's part of that also where it's like, man, no kid should have to deal with that aspect of the man up, you understand? And so um, when I think about man up, that's kind of what comes back to my mind is walking through those struggles and being like, no, this is this will not break me. This will not break me. This will not break me.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Wow. So it's something that you you're telling yourself to help yourself go go through these really hard times.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

I think yes, it was something in that instance. I don't think that that's the way that most people use it, but um if for me, that's kind of what it was. And uh, as I said before, uh those are very difficult, I mean, difficult times, and maybe at some opportunity I'll be able to share that with uh our audience at some point. But to to walk through that time and to think, man, I there's the only way I'm going to get through this is if I gird myself up like a man and walk through it and bear it. And bear it. And bear it. Because no one came to my rescue. There was no one coming to my rescue. So there's only one thing I could do. Bear it, grin and bear it. With all that was in me, go after this.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

But you you were only a kid.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

But I was only a kid, and there's only so much a kid can do.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

There's only so much that you could muster up as a kid.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Like Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

So was it helpful?

SPEAKER_00 6:46

It was helpful in the aspect that it helped me to survive. And please don't think that I'm saying, oh, I because my great amount is testosterone, I survived this situation. No, I I I realized that there were people who came in and helped me at at, you know, but there were a lot of mitigative circumstances. Once again, I'm not gonna go into those, but um I I I feel like man, there's people in my life who should have heard that phrase from other people. My stepfather, he should have heard that phrase.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Yes, man up. Yes, don't take it out. Stop taking this crap out on your kids.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

On your kids, yes. Man up and own your own responsibility.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Responsibility. Yes, don't take it out on someone who's so much weaker than you. Right. You understand?

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Because that's that's the one those people in the community who saw what was happening and said nothing.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Anything, yes, other men.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

And now don't get it twisted because I remember there was a couple people who actually tried to stand up for me. And I to this day, I mean, I that was a kid, and I still remember their faces. I don't even know their names, but I remember their faces. I remember how they stood up for me. And those people, those are men. Those are men. I remember one time, oh man, I'm gonna jump into this. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I remember one time I had run away from home, right? And I was hiding out, and I hid with uh another family. I I because I went run to school, and this family took me into their home. Um, and my stepfather came, and they uh he came to the house because they called him, and that man told my stepfather his face, he's like, I will not release this child to you unless you promise me, unless you swear to me, that you will never touch him again. And my stepfather was uh he was like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I would never do. And I was so thankful for that man. I was so because he was one of the only people who I felt like really challenged my stepfather. Right now, I wish I could say that that was the end of the story, but it wasn't. Why? Because as soon as my stepfather got home, he broke his promise and he beat me. As soon as he as soon as I got home.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Didn't even wait a bit.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Didn't wait, didn't wait. And I even said, but you promised. He was like, so who cares what I said? And for me, I'm like when I think of the phrase, he was the epitome of what it the or the absolute opposite of what it meant for that phrase.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

And so everything he was is the exact thing I wanted to be the opposite of.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Dang. So he's like the anti-role model. It's like you're like anything but to be like you.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

You know what? I'll I always say that you learn a lot of things, right? So you learn a lot of things from people, and uh many times people are mentors. Many times they're mentors of things that you should do, but sometimes you have mentors who teach you the things that you should not do. Usually you don't volunteer for those. No, you don't volunteer for those, but you can learn a lot. You can learn.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

So I don't know if we got off topic, but no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Definitely not. Um so he was the the villain, uh, the anti-role model in your life. Were there any like you talked about that gentleman who stood up for you?

SPEAKER_00 10:21

I remember his son. His son wasn't even that close of a friend of mine, he was a close, close friend, but I still remember him. I remember his friend, I remember his name. I don't remember his dad's name, but I remember that kid's name. I remember them standing up for me. I remember them hiding me in their in their car to give me, and this is the reality. They could have got kidnapping charged for that. Yeah. But this guy was willing to take it to save a kid. Yeah. You understand? Yeah. That man.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

Wow. So that's a man.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Yeah. Someone who is willing to stand up for values and stand up to protect someone else. Man. Wow. Man, I think about that time. I think about that guy. And I know there's no chance that he's probably watching this. But if he is. Thank you. I know it didn't end the way that we expected you that day. But for that, and for that guy, for that moment. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

I don't know. But I think I can imagine. Especially as a kid.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Yeah, as a kid. So is that part of me when I think man up, uh I think about helping others. I think about being that uh example for others. I think about trying to trying to meet that standard of what it means to be uh good and wholesome and a model for others and to protect that that that's I think I believe, I hope that that's the essence of who I am. And that's what it means to me to man up. That literally, that's what it means. But there's the other side and the one where it's just suck it up, and I think that's kind of where I was when I was in that place where it's like suck it up, Joe, and drive on, suck it up, Joe, and drive on. Now, part of that got me to survive that aspect, but I'm telling you, once I got out of that community, once I get not that community, but out of my that house, and later on, it didn't help me because there was so much anger and so much, you can only suck it up for so long. Yeah. You understand? You can only suck it up. Like a vacuum will only suck up stuff for so long, and then it has to get empty. Yes. Why otherwise it gets destroyed. That's just what it is. We as we as humans can only suck it up for we as men can only suck it up for so long. Yes. Before we have to release it. And it's gonna release either as fear or as anger or as both or as mental illness, or it's going to come out in some way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Well, that's why so many abuse people goes on to abuse people.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Yeah, hurt people, hurt people. Typically always.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Because there's no outlet for that anger, for that resentment, for that, for all of those pent-out emotions to go.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

There has been, especially in the last probably 10 years, uh-huh or so, there has been uh almost, and I'm just gonna call it as I see it. I could be wrong. Feel free to disagree. Let us know what you think in the comments. But I feel like there's almost been a emasculation of the male, like a feminization of the male almost. Where, yes, where we're where it and trust me, I'm not excusing those toxic, you know, bros who are out there, you know, who just no, I'm not I'm not excusing them. But at the same time, we I feel like there's this push for the male to be very like quiet and very reserved and to use noxema and to, you know, like we must you understand what I'm saying? Where there's all this like feminization of the male person. And uh I don't personally, me myself, it it's confusing because it's like tries to put me into this box that is not me. Oh, I hold doors open for women when they're like, I can hold it myself.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

I'm like, okay, like what does that mean? Okay, that is confusing.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

It's confusing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

When did politeness become uh chauvinistic? Yeah, when did common courtesy and wanting to help your fellow person become a bad thing?

SPEAKER_01 16:02

So do you think phrases like this contributed to it?

SPEAKER_00 16:06

Like what I think that there are phrases that I don't know if there's ideas, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if it's the phrase that contribute contributed to it, but it's it's an idea. The reason why it's confusing is because of this. At the same time, those same people were saying, Oh, don't hold the doors for me. I can do it myself. No, I don't want you looking at me. No, like there's been times where I've I've honestly I've gone up to people and I have to, I'm a large guy. People are already intimidated by me. And I feel like I have to make myself smaller all the time. You've seen it. I have to raise my voice up really high and so that people don't get intimidated by me, especially being a large black male. I face it all the time. And I move in international circles, and in it, it doesn't matter where I go, I still have to do it. It doesn't matter what company, I still have to do it. And if at any point I start to at any way, shape, or form, start to exert myself, or then people, uh then they get like they can't handle it, they can't handle it. I'm like, no, I'm not mad. You can go off the handle, you can like raise your voice, you can do, but if I do it, no way, that is not allowed.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

And why do you think that is because you're a big black male?

SPEAKER_00 17:29

I think because I'm a big black male, yes, absolutely, and maybe that's getting off topic once again, but I think that it fits into this because the confusing part is I'm being told to man up, but at the same time, I'm being told by society to mend down.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

You understand? And it's confusing. Which one do you want me to be? And I can't, at some point, I can't do all of it for all of you. No, no, I just can be myself. And myself is I want to be kind to others. You don't know my story. You understand? You don't know my story. I choose to be kind. I choose to want to help other people. Why? Because somebody helped me. I choose to be passionate. And if I'm passionate, does that make me a bad person? No. If I want to give you a compliment, no, I'm not. I know, I understand, I understand safety, I understand that all guys are their way. I get it, I get it. But at the same time, not all of us are bad.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Man, I feel like this has been a venting session. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

No, no, no. That's but that's very interesting how you just pointed out the contradiction. It's a it's a great contradiction because um we're telling men to man up and then but in practice, in reality, we want them to be smaller. We want them to be bite-sized and digestible, edible. And it's very confusing, yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

It's very confusing, and I think that there's a large majority of men out there who agree with me, who are watching right now, who understand exactly what I'm talking about and agree with me. If that's you, leave it in the comments. I'm going to give you a practical and perfect example. Yeah. 2025. Now, this could be for a number of reasons. 2025, and if this is your issue, please get help. 2025, US, the statistics, not the not even the statistics, the polls. Do you know how many women committed suicide in 2025 in the US?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

It was about 10,000 women, 9,847. That's how many in 2025. Do you know how many men how many men committed suicide?

SPEAKER_01 19:57

How many?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

38,977.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Almost four times?

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Four times as much. Why? Now, there could be a plethora. There could be a myriad of reasons why. But to me, those numbers are staggering. It's four times as much. Not only that, four times as much we die earlier. There we make up ninety percent of the prison population. There's something here. There's a problem, there's an issue that needs to be addressed.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

And what is the issue?

SPEAKER_00 20:45

I think part of it is we don't understand what it means to be a man. And I'm not talking about gender, I'm talking about what that role actually is. Yes. What does it mean to be a man? And how and we have lost so many fathers. This is a fatherless generation, right? Where the there's not an essence, there's not there's not an uh uh emphasis on being actual fathers, right? And what that means. And when I say father, I'm not just saying a father to your own family. I probably have people who I've fathered, and you understand, not but just being a bigger brother or whatever the case is, some of them would consider me like a dead, but I hopefully not. I don't feel like I'm that old, but but you understand the point. Yeah, and so it's like what does it mean? And that part I think is not um it's not emphasized, it's not stressed, and it's not celebrated. And even more so, it's not modeled. Yes, and that's that's the issue.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

It's like there is a huge vacuum.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Yeah, there's a gap.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Yeah, like there's um even today if you wanna be if you wanna grow up to be a good man, and if you don't have a really great father to to be that model for you, where do you look?

SPEAKER_00 22:28

Where do you look? When the guys who are celebrated the most are the ones the biggest liars. Yeah when it means nothing to keep your word anymore. When you you understand, there was a time where my word was my bond. When I say I'm gonna do something, I'm going to do it. Why? Because a man was only as good as his word. Nowadays we celebrate the biggest liars. Yeah. And I say to those individuals, man up.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

Wow. And I think we got it backwards. Because to me, phrases like this is harmful because we it reinforces the shell when it does nothing to the inside. Does that mean it's an external um ide like idealization of what this species are supposed to look like. But then there's no path, no provision for like nobody, like, okay, so we're all supposed to look like the rock, okay? You know, all men is supposed to look like the rock.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

What the rock is cooking.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

But then, like, what about but that's just like you said, that's not it. It's not a look.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Right?

SPEAKER_00 24:07

It's a it's a character. Yes, it's character.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

It's character. It's character. It's how you stand up to pressure.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

It's integrity.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yes, it's integrity, it's character. Um, because when I mean, there's so much of what you said, I want to respond. Um, and yeah, I I just think we as a society has just got it all wrong because we focus on the wrong thing. We just focus on what it looks like, and we provide no instructions, no pathway, no like no way.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

No real instruction on how to get there.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

How to get there, yes, or what does it take to build a foundation so that we could build something that will not tumble.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

And I think that part of that, and I don't know if we have the full answer to this actually. You we don't have what? I don't know if we have the full answer to how to do it.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

No, I I I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

But I think that part of it starts generationally.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

In one passing it on to the next, right? Like a father passing it on to his son. You know, or what older gentlemen and understanding what it means to be a man, what it means to stand up for someone else. You know, um one of the places where I heard man up a lot of times was in the military.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

I was gonna ask you about that, yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

And uh there it was encouragement. And at first, you know, it was almost like man up, and you feel like uh, but then it's like man up, you're like, yes, I will. You know, it at first it was almost like a slam, but later it became like a an encouragement, a battle cry. Like we we will take care of, you understand? We will take care of business. Yeah, and um just as a side note, I think, and I wasn't in the military all that long, but um the and didn't serve overseas or anything like that. So um, but uh I think that there's something to be said about being willing to give of yourself and give of your life for a higher purpose.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Yes, yes. Isn't that the like one of the pillars of being a strong man?

SPEAKER_00 26:32

And that's exactly what I was trying to say.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Yeah, it's the willingness to sacrifice yourself. Willing to sacrifice, yes, like that's and and that's you know, cross-culturally, I think this translates into every culture.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Um I sacrifice for the good.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

For the good, yeah, yeah, yeah. For the good. For good. And so when I'm preparing, I was preparing for this uh episode, I was thinking about the men I know in my life. And naturally I think about my grandfathers. And um both of them, they they're you know, they're older generation Chinese, so they are very um, they don't talk so very much, especially my mom's dad. Like he just doesn't talk. So, but um so I I don't feel like I knew them very deeply, but from what I know about them and what they've done, what the sacrifices they've made for the family, you know, says a lot about them. And it's and it's that that legacy that lived on. It's not, you know, if um I remember both my grandparents' uh grandpas, they weren't big macho men, they weren't like super tall, muscular, or very manly looking, you know, like the the the image that this face conjured up in my mind, like they they were none of that. But were they a men's men? Yes, they're they're absolutely they're they're in my mind, they're the epitome of strength. Like my um grandfather on my mom's side escaped um China at a very pivotal time to save his family, right? And he sacrificed everything, like his thriving business, his um all of his money, like his fame, his everything, just so that his family can have a better future. You know, my my other grandfather worked so hard in his oyster sauce business to provide for the future generation, you know, like he went to fight for, you know, we we talked about this in an other episode. Like he was his brother cheated him and he he fought, not for himself, like after he got everything back, he just gave everything to my parents, you know? And so he's like it is that spirit of sacrifice, of standing up for what is right, you know, that really solidifies in um in my mind that they are strong. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and then I think of other male role models I have in my life. None of them are like, you know, you know, chip rows.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

But you know, but they are I just feel like I I I look up to them because they yeah, they they they they're strong and they they uh they're kind, they they help others.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

As I said before, I think the reality it comes down to not something that's just on the outside, though that can be uh uh that can be attributed to some aspect, right? That can be an aspect. But the reality of what it means to be a man's man or to man up, I think comes from the inside. And it's what we actually it's something we ascribe to, that character, that integrity, that all of that, I think it's a part of it.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

So let me ask you this. I I know we don't have a lot of time.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

We don't have a lot of time.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Um hypothetically, if you had a son. How would you raise him to be a strong man?

SPEAKER_00 30:44

There's just a lot of maybe it's I I can write these down or something, but there would be a number of principles that I would give him to live by. Some of them I mentioned already, like your word is your bond. Like let your word be true. Let your you understand? Yes. Your word means something. Um integrity is is valuable, it's one of the most valuable things you can have. And I think that's part of being a man. I think people recognize that. When I say yes, I mean yes. But when I say no, I mean no.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

You understand? And and that that's okay. That's not being mean, that's just being direct. Yes, and that's okay. And I I think there's uh I I think so many things. Um telling him what it means, what fear is, and how not to be afraid. And not that it's some like but really finding what true peace peace is. Part of that is in there too. All of those things I would try to teach my son. I would try to teach them how to really treat a woman, right? How to treat her and uh um how to interact with people, how to give a firm handshake, like a real handshake, and how to treat even the least of the people that you meet.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

The least meaning.

SPEAKER_00 32:08

So people always get shocked because typically when I walk in a building, you saw this in China and some of the places we live. I'd always be talking with all of the janitors and the people who push the elevator, and I'd always know my name, and they'd always come and talk to me and stuff. They're like, How do you know these people? I'm like, I talked to them. Yeah, but you're you're a foreigner, you're this, this, this, this. Yeah, you work in this position. Why are you talking to these people? Because even the least of these are important. Every single one of these guys are important. Of course I'm gonna shake their heads, of course I'm gonna talk with them, of course we're gonna have conversations. I used to know all the guards around our building, all the you just think because it's important, and that's what it means is we treat everyone with kindness. I don't care who it is, we treat them with kindness until they give us a reason not to. Wow. That's a lot. I'm sorry. That was a please don't apologize.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

The I mean that is why we wanted to do this episode, right?

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This episode could go longer, actually, and we're already way over time.

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So but we will go on. Um, the next episode we're gonna continue. This is uh part one of two of our uh men's series, or or maybe it's three. Um we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Hopefully, there was a lot of uh emotion that went in this one. I'm not sure we could do this for another couple episodes, so we'll see.

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